YAY! got xUbuntu installed last night... not sure what the problem was but i downloaded the DVD version and tried it that way. it did not boot from the bios as said earlier.(think it has something to do with the type of "boot file" on that version of Linux because Ubuntu boots fine form the bios) would not boot from win2k ether. so i installed xp and ran the DVD from there and had no probs at all, it seems more sluggish than i thought it would run but i believe this is due to driver issues. anyway thanks for all your help, and im sure i will be posting on here soon with more noob Linux questions...