Topic: Vista Question

[zeli]

Ok so I am debating purchasing a new (er) computer. I may not, but I have a question for those of you who have Vista.

I know that most everything is tied in when it comes to security, in example, it will remind you 3 times about changing files deleting files, ect you can turn off this preference, but the problem is, down goes the antivirus and other security features as well. 

Firstly is that correct?

If it is, or isnt Here is my secondary question.

If you turn off the security, can you then install say a free antivirus and run it without tunring back on security?

well explained a different way
I wouldnt want it to remind me everytime i delete a file, move a file, acess the internet, ect
but I would occasionally want to run antivirus software and such,
consider the previous questions and please explain

this question will help me to decide whether or not to buy a new computer and then get vista or stick with xp.

thanks
Zeli 

[GeNe]

you can just disable the question asking bit and still use windows defender virus. or AVG has free anti-virus. The question-asking part of Vista is called User Account Control. You can google to see how to disable it.

[BoneyOne]

Yup, Vista here, UAC (question asking garbage) disabled. Windows Defender and Avast Home Edition (free version) with no problems at all.

[DAwG]

actualy u just have to type UAC into the search thing in Vista and it will find it for you

[Majorpain4U]

Ok but has AVG released the free version for the 64 bit Vista yet?

[BoneyOne]

I personally despise AVG, but yes, there is support for Vista 64bit with AVG

See below....

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/29124/us/frt/0

[quorn]

I have a Vista question.  Does Vista have a Root user?  Or are only Administrator and User accounts available?  And if only Admin and User accounts are available, is UAC the thing that prevents the Admin account from having full r-w permissions?  I know it's easy to change this behavior, but I find it strange that Admin doesn't really mean Admin.

I don't use Vista at home, so my exposure to it is limited to my helping students at work figure out how to install a local machine web server, etc.  It amazes me that many of them--most are IT majors--don't have a clue about localhost or READING THE DOCUMENTATION.

[BoneyOne]

Well basically there are still only two types of account "Standard User" and "Administrator". Even once logged in as an administrator (which as normal most people are with a Windows machine), you can not do Administrative functions without accepting the UAC.

IF UAC is disabled there are still certain things that can't be done normally. Such as flushing my dns. Normally nothing more than opening up the command prompt and typing the command right?  Nope, not anymore.

Now you have to make sure your logged in as an Administrator, then you have to run the command prompt as an administrator (right click, select "Run as Administrator"). If you fail to do this it will tell you that you don't have admin rights.

IF UAC is still you of course you have to tell it that yes, you really did mean to right click and select run as administrator for it to even open the command prompt.

That is of course, just one example.

[quorn]

Thanks for the explanation.  I've read about peoples' frustrations with Vista's constant nagging but was unaware of how obnoxious it really was.  One has to wonder how such a convoluted security system ever came on the market.  I wonder why a sudo-type thing, tried and tested, wasn't the solution?  Hmmm....

[BoneyOne]

Yeah, it's not TOO bad once you turn off the UAC, which I ended up doing (despite how I normally hate to turn off security).

But yeah, sudo is sooooooo much better IMO.

[nanaki254]

  It amazes me that many of them--most are IT majors--don't have a clue about localhost or READING THE DOCUMENTATION.

students these days 

[raVen]

It amazes me that many of them--most are IT majors--don't have a clue about localhost or READING THE DOCUMENTATION.

Have you read the internet exploitz of l33t haxorz who hacked  127.0.0.1 ip address  and destroyed all data . 

[quorn]

Getting off topic, but if there's one thing you can find on the internet, it's info about troubleshooting an Apache installation.  Actually two things, porn and how to troubleshoot an Apache installation.  That would make an interesting combination....

[nanaki254]

Getting off topic, but if there's one thing you can find on the internet, it's info about troubleshooting an Apache installation.  Actually two things, porn and how to troubleshoot an Apache installation.  That would make an interesting combination....

feds say 1% of internet is porn... others say 12%.. and that largest consumers were in the 12-17 age group

[mephisto_kur]

I think that depends on what you consider porn, eh?

Maybe its just the demographic I belong to, but even the legit sites I pay attention to are a good 40 percent scantily clad female heavy.