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Offline LC0g

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PhysX
« on: July 17, 2008, 08:48:03 am »
Do you guys find this weird that nVidia approves driver modding for their physX to work on ATI card, especially with killer cards as the HD4850/4870?!?

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Re: PhysX
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 11:50:59 am »
REMEMBER: I KNOW NOTHING.

That said, I don't think it's too weird.  In another thread, you (I believe) asked why nvidia cards outperformed ati cards even though ati cards had higher specs.  The answer is software--as far as I know, nvidia has a reputation for writing better drivers for their hardware.  As we all know, great hardware is useless without equally great software.

I think that by allowing modification of the nvidia physx layer so that it runs on ati cards, nvidia is demonstrating their edge in drivers/software.  That's my opinion at least.
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 11:54:43 am »
im with quorn, and also know nothing. but i would say it could have to do with Nvidia trying to side with AMD against Intel.... maybe?
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 12:27:24 pm »
From what I understand AMD/ATI and Intel have been backing Havok Physics which would be a direct competitor to Nvidia's Physx.  It looks like it is probably an attempt by Nvidia to push the competition between Physx and Havok in their(Physx) favor by showing that it will run on AMD/ATI graphics cards.
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 03:32:45 pm »
Yeah I read that too, unless Nvidia is able to sway either ATI or Intel, PhysX would be doomed
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 04:35:54 pm »
Quote from: LC0g on July 17, 2008, 08:48:03 am
Do you guys find this weird that nVidia approves driver modding for their physX to work on ATI card, especially with killer cards as the HD4850/4870?!?

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I wrote an article about it. Don't your read my site?
http://www.gpureview.com/bringing-nvidia-technology-to-amd-hardware-article-708.html
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 04:50:12 pm »
I like that one comment, just make every physics engine workable everywhere and let the best man win.
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 06:55:04 am »
i just don't see why AMD doesn't side with Nvidia (on a few issues) and push Intel back a notch or 2.  :huh:

i could just be stupid and not seeing something, but i would say that Intel is the biggest threat to both Nvidia and AMD. and by AMD helping along with Intel will just screw AMD in the end. maybe im just missing somthing...  :-X
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2008, 11:23:49 am »
yeah in the end, with GCPU of Intel, both nVidia and especially AMD (since AMD + Intel = luv for now) so yeah I thyink like you guys: nVidia wants that PhysX be more popular than Intel's Havok thing. and mentok I didn't know that but I just read it.  ;) and by your site you my mean its really yours?!?



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Re: PhysX
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2008, 12:01:11 pm »
well to me it all seems like politics, if they had just sided with nvidia right off the bat they may have had to pay fees to use physX, if they side with havok instead then nvidia gets worried about physx dying, so they end up offering it to free to amd
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2008, 12:18:23 pm »
i hear ya, i just dont see why AMD and Nvidia just dont team up to put Intel in its place. it wouldn't be hard for them if they wanted to....  take away SLI and crossfire then come up with some graphics slot standard that Intel has no rights to.

then what? Intel is stuck with there own crappy graphic solutions with the most useless fastest processors on the market.  ;) AMD is already owning the Mainstream graphics solutions for regular PCs and laptops anyway. a year or so of that and Intel could change its attitude with trying to over run everything.
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2008, 12:23:14 pm »
Well all Nvidia does is make vid cards, and AMD is catching up to them, and AMD also makes processors, so if Intel gets taken down, where does that leave Nvidia
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2008, 12:27:45 pm »
they make mobos too...   :P

they would keep doing what they do now. just with more AMD boards.

once Intel settles down things could resume as normal.

but i guess that would only happen in a fantasy world.  :rolleyes:
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Re: PhysX
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2008, 12:39:46 pm »
mmmh what Intel is doing wrong??



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Re: PhysX
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2008, 12:54:30 pm »
ummm they were selling their chips below cost to hurt AMD more than they already were. and then they told Nvidia that they could no longer make mobos for the new processor coming out because Nvidia didn't want to give exclusive right to SLI for the Intel chipsets.

i could have it a bit twisted but in my opinion, thats like a grocery store owner asking a baker for his recipe to his best tasting cakes. or he wont be able to sell cakes at that store any more. when the other store is right down the street and he could just as easily sell the cakes there.

why would you even consider giving away the only thing thats separates you from the other bakers?  :huh:
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