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Author Topic: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?  (Read 1161 times)

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 01:05:39 pm »
thats how i roll...  :)

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 03:04:09 pm »
I have all my media on separated drives, and I've gotten very efficient at doing reformats over the years, I'm not saying I never do them, but I still don't agree that you should do them just because something goes wrong.  I've had to do my fair share of them, but usually just because I f'd up the partition tables messing around with partition magic or dual-booting scenarios, etc...

I've had my XP installed without reformatting for years, and It runs just as well as it originally did ( after I got all my apps installed ).  If the performance slows over time, it shouldn't be anything a good de-frag and cleaning out unused temporary files/registry settings can't fix.  Of course it's going to start running slow if you don't do regular upkeep on the machine.  I have scheduled de-frags and regular tidy-ups every so often.

No matter how you look at it, if you reformat, you have to reinstall ALL of your programs, that's the part I can't stand, especially when you have a lot of them, and even if you put those on a separated drive, all their registry entries are still toast on a reformat, so you have to re-install anyway.  I just don't see the need if you can prevent it, it's just wasting time.

I just get tired of all the tech-workers out there, that at the sign of anything wrong, it's always reformat.  Creating a huge inconvenience for the people who own the machines they are working on, just because they are too lazy to solve the problem, and just jump right to formatting.

Besides, if you try to solve the problem, you end up learning a lot more about how windows works, which is never a bad thing.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 03:14:11 pm by Farmchild »

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 03:17:56 pm »
I get sick of the techs out there that think that a defrag and a clean-up of the cache files and temp files somehow helps with corruption and known and acknowledged by MS bad long term Windows behavior... :P

Also, i find it interesting that a reformat - which is much more involved and tedious process - is somehow more lazy than deleting a few files and clicking a button to defrag.  I hate reloading.  however, there is not a single doubt that doing it once in awhile helps with slow downs and errors caused by corruption.

It is all well and good that you have been running your current install for years.  I will say that until you do a fresh reformat and install I don't want to hear word one from you about how your system works just as well as when you first loaded it.  The way windows is made and how it uses files is the issue.  Not fragmentation and cache files.

there are techs that always go straight to reformat, there is no doubt of that.  it doesn't mean that reformatting does not fix things and is somehow a "lazy way out."  Having actually been a tech for the past 14 years, working on both personal and business sites, dealing with networks as small as two machines, up to a company with over 12,000 machines including desktops with three OSs, servers with not only Windows but Linux OSs and everything in between...  I can tell you that windows occasionally destabilizes and needs to be reloaded.

I'm not trying to start a fight, but just because you've gotten lucky wit your own install means nothing to how the rest of the world treats their machines.  Users tend to be idiots.
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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 03:57:00 pm »
I get sick of the techs out there that think that a defrag and a clean-up of the cache files and temp files somehow helps with corruption and known and acknowledged by MS bad long term Windows behavior... :P

I'm not saying they help with corruption.  I'm saying that helps keep it running efficiently without needing to randomly reformat to keep it running smoothly.  If you have file corruption, then you need to look into recovering those files, but not necessarily the whole OS.

Also, i find it interesting that a reformat - which is much more involved and tedious process - is somehow more lazy than deleting a few files and clicking a button to defrag.  I hate reloading.  however, there is not a single doubt that doing it once in awhile helps with slow downs and errors caused by corruption.

It's lazy because they don't spend the time to learn what the problem is, and address that problem, instead defaulting to a long process that fixes everything.  It's intellectually lazy, not that they are physically lazy and want to click less buttons.  You end up coming out of the process knowing nothing more about your machine and how it works that you were before.  And if you did something that caused it, you'll never know, and could just end up doing it again, and having to reformat again.

I'm not try to start a fight either, my main point is in my line of work, I deal with too many people who refuse to just stop and think/research for a minute, and save themselves a lot of hassle in the long run.  Just because a process is a solution for your problem, doesn't mean you should automatically solve it using that solution, because there may be a easier,faster, and/or better solution for you if you'd research it.

Having actually been a tech for the past 14 years, working on both personal and business sites, dealing with networks as small as two machines, up to a company with over 12,000 machines including desktops with three OSs, servers with not only Windows but Linux OSs and everything in between...  I can tell you that windows occasionally destabilizes and needs to be reloaded.

I agree with this 100%, I never intended to refute this statement entirely, maybe that's how it came out.  I'm just saying, notice the word occasionally.  You don't have to reformat all that often, especially not every time any problem comes up...If the box really needs it, and it definitely will sometimes, then that's fine.  I just don't agree with going gung-ho reformatting everytime a simple problem comes up.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 04:32:58 pm by Farmchild »

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 04:42:07 pm »
Anyway, back to the original problem, LC0g, is there an error number that comes with that, or any more detail other than that text?  If not, is there anytying in the event log for that error, as it usually contains more detail.

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 05:33:11 pm »
I'm just surprised this hasn't been spliced yet

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 06:32:01 pm »
I'm just surprised this hasn't been spliced yet

lol yeah especially when meph is around  ;)

Anyway, back to the original problem, LC0g, is there an error number that comes with that, or any more detail other than that text?  If not, is there anytying in the event log for that error, as it usually contains more detail.

I reformated today  :rolleyes:  brand new shiny OS. I just love the way windows is so responsie when you just did a reformatting  :)  you click my documents and BOOM no time to say it: you see them loll

but there was also another problem than the parameter is incorrect: I was experiencing a bad stuttering in my games... bad uninstalled driver, since I moved from nvidia to ATI: the drivers were all messed up... now its rolling as a tidy waterfall lolll  :lol:  I was also experiencing low perfomance  :(



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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 09:17:54 pm »
Did you use driver cleaner?  Just advice or next time you switch cards, you might want to look up driver cleaner and give that a go next time, it usually takes care of bad video driver installs.  I even do it when I upgrade cards within the same manufacturer.

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 09:55:37 pm »
Did you use driver cleaner?  Just advice or next time you switch cards, you might want to look up driver cleaner and give that a go next time, it usually takes care of bad video driver installs.  I even do it when I upgrade cards within the same manufacturer.

I dont know how to get in safe mode lol  :sigh:




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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 10:04:26 pm »
there's a button u press starting up, usually i just wait till windows starts loading then I kill it then it prompts me for safe mode

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2008, 10:10:32 pm »
Press f8 when you restart and you should get the menu

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2008, 10:48:41 pm »
oh cool thx guys!!  :smitten:





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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2008, 10:56:00 pm »
F8 thnx  ;) Someday I shall remember

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2008, 09:57:07 am »
I usually struggle with when exactly to press it, so I just press spam it.  As long as you don't press it enough to make your machine think you have a keyboard error.

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Re: The parameter is incorrect. eh what?
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2008, 10:08:35 pm »
As long as you don't press it enough to make your machine think you have a keyboard error.

that is fast  :lol:



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